Pat Porter, a 2011 Kenston alumni baseball player, is now a junior at Ohio State and still playing baseball. He is a outfielder for Ohio State and lead the Big Ten in triples in his sophomore year. When he played for Kenston he was the Division II MVP and got the MVP for the Chagrin Valley Conference twice. In his sophomore year at Ohio State he led or tied for the team lead for doubles, triples, home runs, runs scored, RBI, slugging percentage and on-base percentage. Pat is one of Ohio States best hitters with a college career batting average of .274. Pat is a inspiration for athletes coming from smaller schools. Marion Margaret Brosko said, "Pat Porter is a real inspiration, and makes me want to achieve all my athletic dreams."
Marisa Saks is a native of Shaker Heights. She graduated from Kenston in 2000 and has been living her life to the fullest ever since. With many small roles on TV shows and movies including Scary Movie 5, and the popular TV show Millionaire Matchmaker she has been making quite a name for her self. She quite frequently comes back to Ohio to visit family and friends and says that she still misses the atmosphere that came with Midwest living. Millionaire Matchmaker fan Malaysia Brooks said, " It's cool seeing someone who went to Kenston on this show." Visit the Plain Dealer for their article.
Ryan Fuller went to Kenston High School and graduated in the 2009-2010 school year. At first Ryan had a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon which he planned on modifying, he said, "We modified anything we could with the amount we knew." It had a short ram air intake, catalytic converter delete pipe, and stainless cat-back exhaust. He soon got bored of the FWD Tiburon because he wanted to hoon, and you can’t hoon in a FWD car. He started searching for a 100% stock BMW e30, which were produced from 1982 through 1994, and he found a 1986 BMW 325es close to home. He had big plans for the car and the first on the list was to lower it, which makes purists cringe because you "break" a car when you lower it and "ruin" the perfect stock suspension. First he cut his springs before he had aftermarket wheels. Then he got super low and started with cutting and re-welding the front strut housings 2.5" shorter which were home to Volkswagen Corrado KYB struts with KYB struts off of an 80’s Camaro in the rear. The KYB's were then paired up with a set of Cosmo Racing springs and adjustable sleeves which has made this E30 very friendly with the many gnarly dips and speed-bumps that Ryan comes across driving this BMW on Ohio roads. He is currently swapping in an m50 motor and tubbing his engine bay. Ryan hopes to have this fine piece of art done by car show season.
He is the head of a major sales division at a world renowned company, he drives a Porsche 914, he can bench two 80 pound dumbbells...he is Graham Lynch. It started a long time ago when Graham Lynch decided to acquire an interest in coding and cars. Graham has faced a series of difficult events such as having heart surgery with no insurance and dropping out of college, but that didn't stop the "Big G" or "Caesar", his life is looking up. Not only does Graham drive a Porsche 914...yes a 9-1-4, but he holds a managment job at a company predicted to go bankrupt in 3-5 years. Graham plans on opening a buisness set in a lovely area of Aspen, Colorado, despite having little funds Graham is able to gather currency in many other ways through his years of coding experience. Graham is looking to be the best salesmen in the galaxy.
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Graham Lynch" - Alex Bourdakos
Dan Meyers, a 2002 graduate of Kenston High School, has been accepted at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government in their Executive Education program. The Kennedy School's "Emerging Leaders" program is a global in nature and has participants that are foreign ambassadors, mayors, corporate and non-profit CEOs, and leading nationwide political consultants.
Kenston alumni Alex Kocheff had another great game last Saturday. Kocheff and the Mount Union football team shutout Otterbein 48-0. Inspired by Alex Kocheff and his defensive efforts, the Raiders held the Cardinals to only 5 rushing yards and 32 passing yards. Otterbein only crossed midfield once the entire game. Kocheff highlighted the night with a blocked punt and recovered for a touchdown, and following that he recovered a second blocked punt. In last year's season, Alex's freshman year, he played in all 15 of the Raiders games and recorded 50 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, 2.0 sacks, and a forced fumble. Kenston High School football player Jeremy Wyers reflects on his time with Alex Kocheff saying, "He was a role model to the younger players and always worked extremely hard." The Mount Union Raiders are currently undefeated at (7-0) and hope to remain undefeated.
Longtime, Kenston Cross Country and Track and Field coach, Frank Gibas will be honored on Saturday, August 31 at 8:30 a.m. before the Cross Country Invitational that will bear his name. He began coaching in 1974 and started the girls Cross Country program in 1976. Coach Gibas had winning seasons for 27 consecutive years and advanced to Regionals for 21 consecutive years. His team qualified for the State Meet 11 times. In 1983, his team had the "perfect season" go undefeated in Invitationals. They won the CVC Championship, District Championship, Regional Championship and finally the State Meet. In 1998, he was elected into the Ohio Association of Track & Cross Country Coaches Hall of Fame.
A self-proclaimed "museum nerd" and "foodie," Julie Goldfarb has found the perfect place to enjoy those things while staying in shape in Washington, D.C.
"D.C. is just a healthy place in general. It encourages you to walk. There are a ton of restaurants that do all-natural, organic food. It is an easy city to be healthy in," she said.
When she is able to fight her cravings for cheese and chocolate, Goldfarb enjoys eating breakfast for dinner, Mexican food and grilling with her boyfriend.
The legislative aide for Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) first came to Washington as a fellow for former Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio), and returned after finishing law school at Elon University in North Carolina.
2002 Kenston graduate Dan Meyer was recently published in POLITICO, one of the most read online news sources in the country. His editorial was about the Republican Party’s generational shift. He points out how republicans now days will have to adapt more to the changing social tides in our country. One such issue being the Republican Party’s stance on same sex marriage. Adapting the party’s platform towards these issues will help the party gain majorities and win more presidential elections. Dan Meyer is currently a vice president at DCI Group, a Washington based public affairs firm, and a board member at Project Right Side. Meyer has previously worked on numerous campaigns, including the presidential campaign of former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani. He has also worked in the political division of the Republican national Committee.
Rachel Wilkins Patel is a Kenston graduate from the class of 1994. She is giving Kenston a good name from her latest project, Her Ideas in Motion. She founded this nonprofit organization that helps mentor girls in the field of technology. When hearing about this the first question that may pop into many peoples mind is "Why Technology and Media Arts?" Well Rachel Wilkins Patel has the perfect answer for that. Statistics show that by 2018, there will be 1.4 million good paying STEM-related job openings in the U.S. but less than 14% of computer science degrees are awarded to women and only 25% of the behind-the-scenes jobs in the film industry are filled by women. Rachel states that Her Ideas in Motion mission is to inspire girls with female role models to demonstrate the viability and access to these jobs. "I think that it's really cool that a Kenston alumni is doing something amazing like this for young women. We need more people to step up and take action like she is doing," said Haley Hershman.
Kenston Alumni, Andrew Casey Shaker is currently a freshmen attending Kent State University. Andrew Shaker graduated from Kenston in 2012. His original major was in biochemistry, but shortly after he changed it to sports administration, and then to computer science. Andrew is pursuing his love in computers and also wants to attend the same field that his father works to enhance his opportunity of getting a job with him. In Andrew's first semester at Kent State he finished with a 3.5 GPA and made the Deans List. When asking Nicholas Steele what he thought about Andrew's accomplishment he said, "I'm just truly and sincerely proud of his astounding work!" Congratulations Andrew on making the Deans list!
A.J Holderman was once a Kenston High school student and much like myself, he was in Mr. C's Web Design class. AJ earned his second varsity letter as a junior in 2011. After graduating from Kenston's class of 2009 he went on to play football at Robert Morris University and is currently studying business management. AJ was originally recruited to play linebacker at Robert Morris however, he moved to fullback during 2011 spring drills, but he also helped at defensive line in 2012. He was put on the special teams unit and has been a key component. Robert Morris is a division 1, AA school. He started his football career playing for KCE pewee football. After accepting an athletic scholarship from Robert Morris,AJ went on with his football career to play at college. From the games I have attended I got to witness my brother and his team come together for nail biting games. They truly are a great team on and off the field. They won the conference and made it to the playoffs receiving a championship ring.
Kenston football, basketball, baseball and track standout Brian Barthelmes went on to play football at Virginia, then spent three years on the New England Patriots' practice squad and one season in Amsterdam.
The 6-foot-7, 320-pounder who played every position on the offensive line during his football career is now playing his first love -- music.
Kenston alumnus Mattias Treu, class of 2011, was recently awarded the John Rilling Writing Award by the University of Richmond in Virginia. Every freshman at Richmond is required to choose from approximately thirty writing-intensive freshman seminars. Mattias’ award-winning essay, entitled “The Value and Uses of Wealth in The Aeneid and Beowulf” was selected by Professor Emeritus Dr. John Rilling as the best expository writing by a Richmond freshman in 2011-12. Matty and classmate Diego Leal, who won the award for his research paper on Guatemalan Microfinance, presented their papers to an audience at Richmond's Family Weekend, Matty credits his success in writing to his excellent Kenston training, particularly Dr. Gray's AP English III and IV classes and Mr. Vasil's Mythology class.
Kenston Alumni, and my sister, Ashley Whitelock, is following her dream and is now a teacher at a local school! Ashley graduated back in 2007 and went to the near by Ohio College of Miami. She attended this school for four years with a lot of her other Kenston Alumni friends. She originally entered college thinking she was going to go into business then she changed her major to teaching. After college she got the opportunity to go to Belize to student teach and she took this opportunity and ended up going for 3 months over the summer! She said it was quite the experience! She is currently teaching a pre Kindergarten class at the near by school of Goddard and is now in hope of getting a higher grade teaching job coming up soon. Who knows maybe she’ll end up back at Kenston where it all started. Teaching for a school like Kenston is her dream and hopefully she can accomplish this dream soon!
Kenston Alumni, and my brother, Charleton Uveges, decided to follow his passion for writing. Charleton has consistently been a creative writer throughout his school years. His teachers have always told him that he was an excellent writer, but he never believed them. Some of his former teachers such as Dr. Gray and Mr. Marchesi helped Charleton develop his writing skills and style. Well, years later he finally believed them.
Congratulations to Trisha Wendel and her Crew Team. She was a 2009 Kenston graduate and is a junior at Marietta College and joined the team as a freshmen and she had never even seen a race before then, but almost immediately got a spot on their varsity team. On May 26th they competed in the 2012 NCAA Division III National Championships they seeded in 7th place and placed 5th in a race of 8 teams. They all say she has been a big part of the team ever since she joined 3 years ago, "I am so proud of Trisha! Awesome job placing in the nation," said Melissa Landsman.
This past weekend Ben Herbert, class of 2009, was honored as Capital University Track MVP. Herbert participated on the cross country and track team while in high school and had the commitment to join the Capital Track team in 2010. Through hard work in school and out of school, Herbert has been able to improve greatly as a runner during his high school and college career. During the season Herbert achieved personal records with impressive 800 meter and 1500 meter times. He ran a 1:57, 800 and a 4:08, 1500. His High School coach Chris Ickes said; "Ben succeeds because of his consistent hard work and belief in self. His persistence allowed him to overcome obstacles and greatly improve as a runner. Best of all he has one more year left to see which other goals he can achieve." If you see Ben, be sure to congratulate him on his achievement.
Kenston alumni hockey players get together to play in an alumni game every year. This year the game was on Christmas Eve, everyone had a great time and was able to raise some money for the Hockey team. They had a great turn out with twenty–three skaters representing the classes of '00, '02, '03, '04, '05, '06, '07, '08, '10, and '11. A special thanks to everyone who came out and carried on the tradition. If you want to participate next year, please contact Rob Gibbs at email@example.com.
On Saturday, December 24, 2011, at The Pond in Auburn, Ohio the Alumni Hockey players have a game! All the players are split into two teams and the teams play for an hour. The game is gentler than a regular game in that there is no checking. The skaters pay $35 each to cover the cost of the ice. Spectator admission is free, but we accept donations. All proceeds are donated to the current hockey program. Alumni hockey players have been playing these games since 2004 and they say they are fun and it is very nice to catch up with old hockey players. A junior hockey player, Ryan Malik said, "I think this is a very good idea and when I am older, I want to be a part of these games." If there are any questions contact Rob Gibbs at RichGibbs101@gmail.com for more information.
When John Behm walked off the football field following his last game in a Kenston uniform in October 2007, he didn't know what he was going to do.
He remembered getting his first helmet with a Bombers blue star on it when he was in fourth grade and having to wait a whole year before his parents would allow him play in fifth grade.
"I had always wanted to play football since I could walk probably," he said.
During his final high school game, Behm caught five passes, scored a touchdown and his team beat Orange 48-13, but he still had an itch for more football. He and senior teammate Brett Tevepaugh were the last to walk off the field, he said.
2001 Kenston graduate Brian Barthelmes and his wife Caitlin were recently on the Lifetime series "Project Runway." This show was originally aired on September 15, 2011, and continues to run weekly and is on Lifetime Thursday, October 13, at 5 p.m. (episode 8 "What Women Want"). This weekend Brian will be featured on the NPR show called "Only A Game" where he is being interviewed about leaving the NFL for a music career and playing songs from his new CD "Jealous Hands." The show will air in Cleveland on 90.3 FM WCPN at 7-8 a.m. and in the Youngstown area 88.5 FM WYSU at 2-3 p.m. In the very near future GAP Stores will be releasing a CD to raise money for charity and it will include one of Brian's songs from the Jealous Hands CD called "Winter Trees." Kenston is proud of you Brian!
Kenston graduate Brian Barthelmes (2001), has quite the resume. Brain played as a center in the NFL for the New England Patriots. He gave that life up in persuit of a career in music. Brain is in the band Tallahassee, and they recently released a new album "Jealous Hands" on April 19. This is the fourth album that Tallahassee has released. Senior Lucas Himmelman said, "The music is entertaining and of the highest quality. Brian's performance on the vocals is wonderful."
In the coming weeks if you find yourself crossing over the I-480 bridge heading eastbound, take a glance to your right and you may spot a familiar face. Smiling from a billboard advertising Hiram’s Weekend College is class of '79 alumni Tammy (Bence) Rosboril. The pose you see is a candid shot taken on graduation day. "The college contacted me a few weeks after graduation and said they had a terrific photo they had taken of me and wanted to know if I would allow them to use it to advertise for the Weekend College," said Ms. Rosboril. "Hiram is a great school, and my experience there was very positive. I agreed to allow them to use my image." August 2010 Ms. Rosboril’s picture starting appearing on billboards around the Akron and Youngstown areas. Soon afterwards the ad started to appear in local newspapers and magazines. "I never knew where I was going to turn up next," said Ms. Rosboril. "The billboard on I-480 was the biggest surprise. I never thought graduating from college would land me on a billboard."
My brother Christian is awesome in many ways. He is an awesome brother to me. He is an awesome basketball player and has been playing since he was in grade school. He played here at Kenston and Christian scored 1,156 points in his four year Kenston career. He has played all four years of college. Christian is a senior at Valdosta State in Valdosta, Georgia. My parents and I drove to Georgia last weekend and we saw my brother’s team win a close game. I feel very happy and proud of my brother when I watch him play. I really miss Christian and I can hardly wait for him to graduate and come home. Visit Valdosta State website for Christian's profile.
Kenston all-time scoring leaders:
Derrick Dejarnette 1,378
Trenton Hillier 1,236
Paul Noble 1,167
Christian Hunter 1,156
Matt Phillips 988
Eric Truog 856 (currently a junior)
Kenston Alumni, Perris Byrd, is a perfect example of someone who is following their life long dream. Perris graduated in 2010, and decided to attend the Recording Workshop in Chillicothe, Ohio in order to study the engineering and production of music. Since he was five years old, Perris has been interested in rhythm and finding the right sound for music. Fifteen years of practice and improvement has led him to the beginning of his success.
He remembers writing a letter to a Bomber he admired, and he knows what it's like to be a kid looking up to a football idol.
With that in mind, the current Davidson linebacker and former three-sport standout at Kenston volunteers his time as a tutor for kindergartners and fifth-graders and Davidson (N.C.) Elementary School.
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Have you ever wondered about people after they graduate High School? Where do they go, what do they do? Most of the time current students never hear about the alumni and their accomplishments. But every once in a while a story trickles back down to the high school and we're informed of what Kenston Grads are up to. Tammy Guilian Gentry, who graduated in 1986, made it big with her creation of the Penny Stones.
2005 Kenston graduate Jennifer Robin, is well on her way to becoming the next big photographer from Kenston, joining Amanda Hrbak (class of 2004). I had the opportunity to interview Jennifer and below is our conversation. A current junior at Kenston, Hillary Duncan, who is planning on becoming a professional photographer said, "I am encouraged that we now have two recent graduates that are successful photographers, and I am inspired by their achievements." Read the interview!
2007 Kenston graduate John Behm won a spot on the Allstate Good Works Team. John visited Kenston on Thursday, January 6, and said, "I really appreciate everyone from Kenston voting for me." Pat Porter said, "It was awesome to see a former student from Kenston receive a prestigious award at a big game like the Sugar Bowl.
2000 Kenston graduate, Kimberly McCune, is making a name for herself in the culinary arts. Kimberly attended Auburn Career Center during high school and graduated from The Culinary Institute of America. After a lot of hard work and dedication she recently started up her own business. Kimberly's company is a catering service called Vine & Dine. Vine & Dine caters to all types of parties, meetings and gatherings.
Two Kenston football student-athletes have now achieved the same rare accomplishment, selection to the College Coach’s Association Good Works Team. Their names are Brian Barthelemes and John Behm. This award is given for the good that they did in their communities. Brian Barthelemes was given the award in 2004 and John Behm was given the award in 2010.
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DAVIDSON, N.C. - Davidson football player John Behm regularly volunteers his time as a tutor for kindergarteners and fifth-graders at Davidson Elementary School each Tuesday and Thursday afternoon. So when he entered the fifth grade classroom just after 1 p.m. today, it was supposed to be just another “day at the office.”
But representatives from AllState along with the students, staff and faculty from the school, Davidson coach Tripp Merritt, some teammates and coaches, and even John’s mother, Kim, and older brother, Dan, were there to greet the junior linebacker and present him with a trophy for being named to the 2010 Allstate AFCAGood Works Team®, one of the most prestigious off-the-field honors in college football.
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John Behm a 2008 graduate of Kenston who played football, basketball, and lacrosse, has been recently chosen by the Allstate Insurance Company and the American Football Coaches Association for the 2010 Allstate Good Works Team. The Allstate Good Works Team is one of the most prestigious off the field honors in all of college football. Behm and 22 other players across the country have been chosen for this honor.
Homecoming is fast approaching, and Kenston is working to increase spirit and fan involvement in the school. We need your help! Kenston would love to see our alumni at the game cheering the football team on. The game is on September 24, 2010 against Chagrin, and should be interesting. Come and join current Kenston students and parents as the Bombers take on our rival.
Someone found a class ring in 1990 in Ohio City. The ring is from 1968. It is a girl's ring with a setting from September. The founder of the ring contacted the school through email and asked if we could help with finding the owner of the ring. If you know someone from Kenston who lost a class ring from 1968, you can contact the founder at firstname.lastname@example.org. Please help us find the owner now! Michael Rendlesham said, "Wow, look at how helpful the Internet can be. It can help connect people from all over!"
The Plain Dealer recently wrote an article on renowned Glenville coach Ted Ginn Sr. and the huge impact he has made on athletes across Northeast Ohio. One of the athletes mentioned in the article was Steve Hryb, a 2007 graduate from Kenston High School. Steve was a three sport athlete in high school, participating in cross-country, basketball, and baseball, and Ted Ginn Sr. helped him with his confidence and his attitude toward life, while meeting him at a track meet one day. Steve Hyrb said about his mentor, “I am living proof of his generosity.”
Kenston graduate Brian Barthelmes (2001), isn't one to be sitting at home letting his life fly by, but instead he is making a huge difference in the world by helping the less fortunate people and also by starting a band.
Erin Slattery, Kenston graduate from 2006 recently earned the Academic All-America College Division All-District IV honors award. Erin graduates from Wittenberg University in 2010. Slattery is majoring in communications and holds a 3.59 GPA. She is the president of Wittenberg’s Student Athletic Advisory Committee and secretary of Student Senate. She had an internship with Wittenberg's Office of University Communications and attended the 2008 NCAA Student-Athlete Leadership Development Conference held in Orlando, Florida.
Alison Murphy and Erin Henry are Kenston graduates from 2001. Alison is planning on graduating this spring from Case Western Reserve University as a nurse practitioner in women's health and midwifery. They left Saturday, October 24 for San Raymundo, Guatemala on a mission trip.
Kyle Street Q: Why did you decide to start traveling to Taiwan to teach English and do research on a Fulbright Grant?
Kevin Slaten A: I applied because I wanted to have the opportunity to live abroad for an extended amount of time in a Mandarin Chinese-speaking country. Also, I had been doing nothing but research in my previous job as a researcher in a think tank, so the English teaching component of my current position is was a welcome change of pace and perspective.
Dan Behm, a 2005 Kenston graduate, is currently attending West Virginia Wesleyan College. He is well and in his senior year playing D2 soccer for the Wildcats. Dan is considering staying at WVWC to take part in his last eligible year of soccer and to earn his MBA, due to the job market, which is poor. WVWC, like many University's, has a great Study-abroad program. Last December, Dan and many fellow students had a great opportunity to visit Italy and study abroad for a month. While in Italy, Dan visited Venice, Rome, Florence and Naples, where he saw numerous museums, historical attractions, and experienced many cultural changes. These were all beautiful places, however what he experienced at the Vatican City changed his life forever.
A group of Kenston community residents have teamed together for the purpose of raising non-tax based revenues to build a new Kenston Community Stadium. This new complex will replace the existing Kenston high School football stadium. Highlights of the proposed new stadium include:
Cameron Murray graduated from KHS in 2007. While in high school, Cameron was a good student involved in many activities including Marching Band. Cameron is currently attending Neumont University in Salt Lake City, Utah, where he is majoring in computer science. He is halfway through his two-year bachelor's degree program. Cameron is extremely busy; attending classes 8 a.m.-4 p.m. Monday through Friday. Cameron is working in an accelerated program that will allow him to earn his bachelors degree in two years. Each day after classes, Cameron usually spends a few hours working on homework and other projects for school.
A class reunion is a time to get together with your old high school friends. Kenston graduates of 1978 held their class reunion last month. The reunion was scheduled for September 12, 13, and 14. It was held at Aurora Inn and went from 6:30- midnight. Many former graduates were in attendance to the reunion and all had positive reports about it. Former Kenston graduate John Blakey said, "Seeing all of my friends was the most fun I have had in years."
A small number of Kenston graduates succeed in the athletic field, one of them just so happens to be Justin Rodhe who has succeeded in shot-put. Many people look at the Olympics as a goal that is very hard to attain, but not everyone, Justin has recently been training to be a participant in the 2012 Olympic Games. If you think about the time, the energy, and the devotion that goes into training, you would have to realize that you have to be very dedicated to achieve such a goal. Justin has been in Kamloops for about seven months now and as time passes he does better and better with his throws. The Olympic standard throwing length is 20.5m with a 16lb shot, and Justin has thrown 19.55m with a 15lb shot, and still has years to train before the next Olympic Games come around. This is a lifetime goal, it is impossible to just one day roll out of bed and decide to train for the Olympics; it takes so much effort to achieve that target, and so many hours of training a day.
2000 Kenston graduate Sarah Wells (Fugman) was a student webmaster for the Kenston website the year we were named the Best High School Website in the USA. When Sarah was a student at KHS, she was one of the main reasons we won the contest. According to Mr. C. Sarah is a "self taught computer genius." Sarah helped teach Mr. C. some of the things that he knows today. I guess the saying, the student has become the teacher, could come in handy in this situation.
There are many things that Kenston graduates do after they get out of high school. Tace Herman has chosen to do something that most people will never do in their life. He has chosen to go and help people in a foreign country. Below is a Question and Answer session with Tace.
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